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backfires through the carb when reving
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twofastferu
I love my Chevy Chevette!
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Posted: 08/05/09 09:40 PM
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My friend has a 69 chevelle with a 454 and it idles fine but when we rev the engine it backfires through the carb. we replaced the timing chain, the carb is a brand new edelbrock 750 cfm and we adjusted the timing 6 way from sunday with no success. my friend leaves for bootcamp this sunday and we would love to get the car running right so he can drive it before he leaves. please help.
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85_trans_am
My first time was in a Chevy
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Posted: 08/06/09 06:39 AM
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check the plug wires. sounds like there is a wire crossed.
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elanum01
I love my Chevy Chevette!
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Posted: 08/06/09 07:30 AM
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I would say you have a wire crossed or make sure that is dropped in right and you didnt time it on the #6 hole, it will idle and run but you will have some problems
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68scott385
V-6 Camaros rule!
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Posted: 08/06/09 10:54 AM
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i have seen excessively worn cam lobes (exhaust) cause similar problems
hope that isn't your/his problem though
- i did love my chevette (first car) more than my first wife my 94 4.3L Astrobrick would outrun the 99 5.4L f350 i had to drive for work
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Pontiacman2
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Posted: 08/06/09 11:09 AM
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My edelcrap carburetor did that and it was new also if the things the other posters said to try does not work then try adjusting the accelerator pump it is easy to do.
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68scott385
V-6 Camaros rule!
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Posted: 08/06/09 11:12 AM
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come to think of it, i have two of those edelbrock 750's and they seem to me to be prone to back-firing when all seems well otherwise
pulled a holley of unknown origin (double-pumper w/milled choke horn...supposed to be a 650...no numbers...who knows, don't personnally know any holley gurus) and dropped the edelbrock in its place and it liked to back fire...been quite a while since then but seems like i tinkered with the timing a little, of course checking all the settings of the carb helps, i.e., float settings (fuel level, float drop)...these carbs can't handle much pressure either, like 5-6psi max
- i did love my chevette (first car) more than my first wife my 94 4.3L Astrobrick would outrun the 99 5.4L f350 i had to drive for work
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waynep712
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Posted: 08/06/09 04:57 PM
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2 fast for you.... does the big block have a dual plane intake or a single plane intake.????/
single plane intakes require larger squirter nozzles... perhaps a different lever hole for the pump rod...
on holleys there are a hand full of different pump cams that can go on and multiple positions for each one..
when the throttle opens... the pump shot has to be instant... INSTANT... if the check balls in the accelerator system are worn, wrong... if the pump height is not right... it won't shoot enough gas into the intake plenum.. it will go lean... and back fire.
it could also be the idle transition restrictors... they might need to be checked and verified that they are open and the air bleeds are also open..
which model edelbrock did you get... carb number. ??? 14??
so after running the motor for a minute or two.. but before it gets too hot to lay on.... with the engine off... climb up on top so you can see straight down the primarys... work the throttle.. a tiny amount... see if the accelerator pump shoots fuel out as soon as you move the throttle.. not a few degrees after you open it.. instantly...
let up know what you find... and you have to really pull the primary boosters.. to properly check the idle feed tubes, restrictions , bleeds... do so... with tiny wire... and a blast of brake cleaner or carb cleaning spray.... i have usually gotten tiny tiny strong wires from wire brushes...
there are a bunch of other things it could also be... this is just what i have found... and i could be totally wrong.... sometimes i am.. usually i am....
oh... and where is the vacuum advance hooked up to ..?????? manifold vacuum or ported vacuum.....
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Grizzly.Bear0
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Posted: 08/10/09 09:13 PM
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I'm sorry to say but it sounds like your cam is wiped.
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unclepsycho
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Posted: 08/11/09 08:54 PM
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Lots of good info here. 2-fast never got back here to tell what the results were. When I crossed up #5 and #7 on my 350 I got the same backfire 2-fast described. would be interesting to know what was found.
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twofastferu
I love my Chevy Chevette!
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Posted: 09/09/09 09:10 PM
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the exhaust lobe was wiped right off on cylinder 2. We replaced the cam and it ran fine until today. again the same problem I think we need to tear the whole thing down and start over. who ever my buddy bought the car from screwed him over really good
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waynep7122
V-6 Camaros rule!
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Posted: 09/10/09 12:01 AM
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i would have you make a lifter rack with a wood drill bit and a chunk of 2x4 or 2x6.... 16 holes for lifters... with a mark up front to say which end if the front...
examine the lifters ... look for scratches... try each lifter in it's bore... perhaps.. when the engine was torn down previously... i have seen people drive the lifters out with a rod... putting a scratch in the lifter bore.. that was enough to keep the lifter from rotating freely...
i would also say... put super magnets in the bottom corners of the oil pan... catch any metal... remember the oil pump is not filtered.. only a screen... replace it... (super magnets are usually neodynium, and are really really strong. radio shack sells them cheep. you can also pry them out of old computer hard drives..)
wash the block out... use oil galley brushes... you can get a ball hone for the lifter bores...
you might also stick the cam back in... and look down the lifter bore... and see if the offset on that lifter bore verses cam lobe is the same... there was a batch of 305s that had the lifter bores so far off.. you could not keep a cam in them... someone made a wide lobe cam just for that motor.. i have not seen it on a big block.. but you never know..
there are also lifters that have an edm burned hole through the lifter face.. squirts a bit of oil right out the face and onto the cam lobe..
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